i did not demo anything im bout to say so i dont know if its gonna matter at all. on 7/27/09 spyder was being a complete asshole to everyone including panda and taste. he disrespected taste. he put up a vote after the rtv was complete to go to space jail and nobody wanted it so taste cancelled the vote and spyder was bitching so much that nobody that was in there for it likes him. personally i think he should get his admin taken away for disrespecting other admins and players but i have no proof of him being an ass so its up to you. thank you